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Faye

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'PPP' Pensioners Parliamentary Party.
« on: March 27, 2008, 03:52:33 PM »
I am about to launch a political party purely for pensioners.  I believe that pensioners are the 'forgotten' generation.  Each Political party want our vote, but once they are in power, we are become non-existent.
My local newspaper has carried the story of my challenge, I am now waiting to see if I can get a sponsorship.  I intend to stand at the next election on pensioners issues only.
My local pensioners forum are very interested and stated that they will be willing to vote for me.
I don't wish to bore you at this juncture with the details, but if you are interested I can give you more information.
I am pleased to be able to use this site, I am very interested to hear of your own plight.
My best wishes to you all.


daisey2008

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 02:22:37 AM »
Seems an awfully good idea. Please post information about it??? Thanks

Faye

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 12:10:30 PM »
Hello Daisey.
I will give you a quick example of some of my proposals:

1.  We would like pensions reinstated in line with inflation.

2.  We want a recognised cash service and not just LIP service.

3.  We don't wish to change the face of politics, we want what we believe we deserve, and for governments to fact the change.

4.  We want concessionary taxi allowance over and above the present allowance.

There are points I intend to bring up:

This is the generation who gave so much and yet receive so little.
We are the forgotten generation.
Many pensioners face the dilemma of whether to 'eat or heat'
OAP.....Old and Penalised
We are an aging population
In 1945 when the Pension service was set up, the age expectancy was only 67 years.
A poor country like India revere and respect their elderly, we are one of the richest countries in the world and yet we show no respect for our pensioners.

I am now awaiting sponsorship.  I would appreciate your comments on the above.
Thank you for showing interest.
Faye


daisey2008

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 01:43:18 PM »
Hi Faye,

Thanks for the information. I have sent details of this site to the secretary of our local pensioners' group & mentioned your plan for a PPP. We have a meeting scheduled for this coming Friday (April 4th) so I will take your latest posting containing some of your proposals to that & try & get feedback for you (unless  our secretary already has this in hand). I also know someone from one of the other pensioners' groups in the area so will point her towards your postings too. I guess you are happy with me doing this? If not, please let me know before Friday &, of course, I won't. For info, I'm in the Poole, Dorset area. BTW, are you aware of the National Pensioners' Convention (http://www.npcuk.org/aboutus.htm)?

Best regards

Faye

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 01:52:51 PM »
Hello Daisey,
I have no qualms at all about you giving the information to your group.
I have to say that this is the first site I have come across purely for pensioners, it is a great idea.
I don't belong to any pensioner groups....as yet, I may well look around in my area to see what is available.
Thank you once again for your interest.
By the way I am to receive 26p increase in my allowance. I don't receive any company pensions.  I would imagine that when most of us started work, pension funds were not available to all. We did not earn an awful lot of money back then (60's) to be able to pay into a private pension fund.
Another point I would like to make, I saw this on the internet.....most low paid workers, pensioners etc. will pay more income tax after April, than Gordon Brown.  What a scandal!

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 11:46:54 AM »
Well done Faye. Thats just what we need. A political party just for us pensioners. We need everyone to spread the word about it.

Faye

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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 04:00:24 PM »
Hi Daisey,
Many thanks for your support.  I would also like to thank you for the link to the Pensioners Convention website, I found this most interesting.
I look forward to receiving the feedback from your group.
Best wishes
Faye

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 07:58:51 PM »
You seem to be getting more people interested Faye, well done. I am a member of another forun for the over 50@s It's called http://www.oldmoaners.co.uk I am sure you could find more people on there to help you.

Ian C

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 07:02:07 PM »
Is there any point in launching a pensioners' party when there is already one in place?

http://www.thepensionersparty.org/index.html

Faye

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 07:16:07 PM »
Thank you Ian C, I was not aware that there was already a Pensioners party in existence.  I have read their website, and sent an email.
I do hope that I can be of assistance to them.
Thank you once again for the information.

Ian C

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 08:35:50 PM »
Nice one, Faye.  Too late for this year but I would suggest you consider standing as a PP candidate for election next time round, even if it's just a parish council.

Regards,

Ian

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 04:12:03 PM »
HI FAYE. WHAT AREA DO YOU PROPOSE TO STAND IN. WHICHEVER, GOOD LUCK TO YOU HOPE IT COMES TO FRUITION. BRINOR

Clem

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2008, 08:49:48 PM »
Great idea. Pensioners are just ignored. I think there is an assumption we must all be on huge private pensions. Well, most of us are not.

I bet in the current climate we are going to go back to the 60s and 70s where those with muscle will demand inflation busting pay rises and right at the bottom of the pile us pensioners will get squeezed.

I cannot see Labour or Tory doing anything for us.

Why do the millions of pensioners go on voting for them?

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2008, 06:33:43 PM »
Faye

I'm sorry to disillusion you, but political parties for specific groups within society do not work in the sense of gaining power and influence. Yes, there is publicity to be gained for the cause by fielding candidates at an election, but once the election has gone, and you have gained a few hundred votes (or thousands if you are very lucky), all will be forgotten and you will be no nearer achieving your aims.

To be practical, you really have two choices in an attempt to gain influence for pensioners:

The first is to establish a pressure group, rather than a political party. By going down this route, you are not competing with any other allegiances -people can support your cause whatever their general political leanings. The other advantage of being a pressure group rather than a political party is that press and media often seek 'balance' between obtaining the views of political parties, and once they have got the views of the major parties they are unlikely to seek minor party views as well. As an example, think about environmental issues - The Green Party majors in on environmental issues, but how often do you hear them quoted when an environmental issue comes up? Almost never - it is the environmental pressure groups - WWF and Greenpeace who always get asked for their views.

The other option is to establish or join a party which supports your causes but has a wider frame of reference. And here I might be able to help you! Like you, I am currently endeavouring to establish a new political party. The aim of this party, called the Social Equity Party, is to offer a real alternative for the tens of millions of voters who have effectively been disenfranchised by the three main political parties fighting over the centre-right political ground. My vision is for a centre left, moderate, yet radical party whose vision would be a fairer society, demonstrated by a narrowing of the gap of wealth and income between rich and poor; also reducing the excess influence of corporations over the process of Government with an end to PFI.

I am more than happy to discuss with you how we could incorporate pensioner issues into the overall framework of party policy. Have a look at our naissant website at www.socialequityparty.org.uk which will give you a broader idea of our vision. Please let me know if you think we might be able to work together to bring about the changes we both want.

Finally, bear in mind that your two options which I have set out are not mutually exclusive. There is no reason why you should not establish a pressure group at the same time as helping to establish a political party.

Graham

Faye

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2008, 05:07:07 PM »
Hi Graham
many thanks for your most interesting information.  I will certainly contact you to see how we can work together in an attempt to bring about a fairer society.
It was my reason to attempt to launch a party specifically for pensioners, because I thought that we were treated unfairly by all governements.
Those in power are lining their pockets at our expense, this is not democracy this is dictatorship.  In many ways Blair/Brown are not unlike Mugabe and Saddam (except for the violence) in a way that they made sure that they lived in luxury whilst the rest of us struggled to make ends meet.
The rich/poor divide is getting wider, and after this winter I am sure that the gap will be such that certain sections of society will never catch up.
I will email you, and hope that it will be possible for us to work out what strategy is needed in an attempt to ensure that the poor are not left behind.
Best wishes
Faye