Coalition

[avalonmpk2]

coalition:
I thought that the reason the the great British public voted as they did for the coalition was to get the country out the ridiculous debt that we are in - Not to meddle in other countries affairs to hell with the middle east if they want to shot each other the fewer there will be to come here and claim benefits.
Unfortunately the present sate of our laws means that I am not allowed to express how I really feel on this matter no it's not racism it is pragmatism!!!

[Chrisjay]

Sorry nice try but we didn't vote for this coalition

And since when did any politician not miss an opportunity to be seen as the saviour of the world and lead the lost out of the fold before leaving them to starve.

If you look at the TV shots of Saddam's country we bombed the hell out of it to 'free' the people, someone got the oil (probably the Americans) but the revenue certainly has not been used to rebuild their cities and homes and most, ten years on, live in bombed out shacks.

Do I now get the award for best cynic

[avalonmpk2]

Someone voted for the coalition even under our left slated electoral system they did not vote themselves in: Some call it democracy - a system whereby we get the government we deserve rather than the one we desire. The other point is that  any government is only as good as its opposition makes it! Those who have been  opposition are only after getting  out the system what the perceive that their predecessors have had - Look after number one!
I'M THE No. ! Cynic He he

[cheddar-caveman]

NOBODY voted for a coalition. It was the result of not enough people voting for any one of the two parties. Hence a "hung" parliament and hence the Conservatives had to kai-tai to one of the other two parties to try and form a coalition The Libs were certainly the better of the two options so here we are.

Our pending interference in Libya is for one reason only, to protect out oil interests there, and if we don't act quickly it will be too late. If we lose our oil interests there, £1.40/ltr will seem cheap

[Chrisjay]

C C I know its a habit but I agree with you and if we look back at the past 10 years plus every time there is a crisis (and I class our deficit a crisis) our 'leaders' become world statesmen posing anywhere but here professing to be for the freedom from dictatorships.

Can someone send them a definition of democracy as they seem to have missed us having a say in the Lisbon Treaty, staying in the EU, Human Rights Act (what a con as they knew when they promise a UK bill of Rights it would not supercede the HR Act) or any other significant legislation.

It is time the UK learned to keep its nose out of other peoples business (and stop selling arms to dictators so he can kill his own people) and get its own house in order.

[avalonmpk2]

Chris do you really expect common sense to prevail amongst politicians - surely you can't be that naive?

[Chrisjay]

I'm running for the cynic of the forum title so naive no cynical yes :-)

[avalonmpk2]

So if us golden oldies are so cynical about our politicians, what do we propose to replace them with - chimpanzees - we get free bananas, but we would still have the endless, useless chatter. How about a dictator and shoot him/her after ten years Suggestions PLEASE!

[Chrisjay]

What about going through a job interview with the electorate where you outline your experience in the workplace and only qualify to hold office in your area's of expertise i.e.
Minister for education must have been a head teacher,
minister for prisons must have held a governors post,
minister for Health should have been a consultant or chief administrator,
minister for defence must have held a high rank in any of the forces,
minister for works must have held a high managerial position and
minister for pension be a pensioner with business experience (I believe works and pensions should be split as the two are not compatible and contradict each other)
The Prime Minister and deputy must be able to show a grasp on reality - now there is a difficult one! but should have held at least one senior cabinate position successfully and not in opposition

Hows that for a start?

[avalonmpk2]

I can recall situations whereby people have been ''kicked upstairs'' to get them out of harms way. Holding a top position does not necessarily mean that one is the best person for that job - certain semi secret societies come to mind. There is another addage: out of the mouths of babes . . .

[Chrisjay]

Which is why you have an interview process with a selection of the electorate (could be run along Question Times format) interviewing and finding if the candidate actually has any substance or indeed is all smoke and mirrors

[bromers]

The problem with a job interview is they would do the same as always LIE,LIE,LIE. Perhaps while Cameron and Obama are in talks about how to get us in a new war in Libya we could sneek in and take over.

[caminito]

Why is it that political leaders don't seem to have all the answers until they write their memoirs?
 

[Elder Rebel]

I think the real problem is that most of our parliamentary appointees (sic;  MP's) have never done or mastered a real job of work in their lives.  Many, possibly most, have got into position by being researchers, aides, go-for's, interns etc within the various parties.  Then they wheedle a place as candidate in a constituency because these are now controlled by party headquarters in London, not by the local constituency parties.
The result is that we as voters are presented with some fast talking idiot who we do not want to vote for, as in the last election, but have little other choice.
When these clowns do get to parliament and finally become ministers they have no experience of real life but do think they can rule the world, when in fact they would be incapable of managing a pig sty.  Remember the Minister of State for Education who couldn't multiply two easy numbers or the Foreign Minister who could not point to Afghanistan on the map?
To put it bluntly, most of our politicians can be described a spivs, lacking in morals, self seeking, expenses grabbing and quite incapable of running the country properly.  That is why we are in a mess and it applies to all parties.

[avalonmpk2]

The Irish have the word for it - BLARNEY it sounds better than  a bovine enema