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Bee

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« Reply #15 on: Jun 19, 2020, 07:14:32 PM »

By that criteria it was the done thing for black people to be slaves back then.  It does not make either right but you certainly wouldn't call your mother white privileged.   If we study our colonial past which is fine by me, black people should study white working class social history too and realise they are not the only hard done by ones.


Oh! for goodness sake the black people had it a lot harder than the white folk....there again the difference between you and myself is.... I am not a racist.
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mick607

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« Reply #16 on: Jun 19, 2020, 07:44:01 PM »

Oh! for goodness sake the black people had it a lot harder than the white folk....there again the difference between you and myself is.... I am not a racist.
But a large chip on your  shoulder.

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« Reply #17 on: Jun 19, 2020, 08:01:12 PM »
What the hell are you talking about, I have no reason to have a chip on my shoulder especially with the life I have lived.
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 19, 2020, 08:04:54 PM »
I learnt all about the British Empire as well as that of the French and the Belgians, and the German attempt at starting an Empire.

I also had a subscription to the British Empire Magazine that did not beat around the bush:  https://www.britishempire.co.uk/library/bemag.htm

So what is all this Hoo-Hah about teaching now?

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« Reply #19 on: Jun 19, 2020, 08:51:18 PM »
Will my cleaner sue me for compensation for her "slavery"?


Does she choose to clean your house? Do you pay her? Can she come and go at will? If the answers are Yes, then no slavery involved, so you can rest easy!

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« Reply #20 on: Jun 19, 2020, 09:21:53 PM »
Thank you,Granny Mac,I will sleep well tonight!

GrannyMac

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« Reply #21 on: Jun 19, 2020, 11:14:20 PM »
Thank you,Granny Mac,I will sleep well tonight!


What my daughter in law pays their cleaners suggests the job these days is far from the drudgery for a few shillings it used to be.  With both her and my son working from home, and both children off school, she can't wait for them to start again!
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 19, 2020, 11:26:47 PM »

Oh! for goodness sake the black people had it a lot harder than the white folk....there again the difference between you and myself is.... I am not a racist.

Blooming heck, Ive rattled your cage!!

You may consider me a racist, but I'm not rude and don't make personal insults to other forum members even when I disagree with them, we should be able to debate issues without name calling.

So however hard a white persons life has been a black persons has to be worse, thats bias against one race from another isnt that racism?  Its bash the wicked white person who seems to be blamed for everything and not a word about the role of Arabs in the slave trade, who were still at it long after the abolition of slavery by Britain and America are still at it today.

Anyway, I'm off to polish my jackboots and dust off my shrine to Hitler before I go to bed.

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« Reply #23 on: Jun 19, 2020, 11:39:56 PM »
Its not an individual thing.  My life is worse than yours etc.  I read last night about Martin Luther King's assassination. All he was doing was trying to make things better for black people in the USA who held the same jobs as their white counterparts but were paid less, and had much worse conditions. 

Would you feel it right or fair if you were doing exactly the same job as your next door neighbour, but you were on minimum wage and she got £3 an hour more.  You were just as efficient as her, but she was right handed.  You were left handed.  That was the only difference.
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 19, 2020, 11:45:52 PM »
There's not a lot of common sense about the racial feelings in the Southern States..I experienced it personally as late as 1976..I have no idea what might happen in the USA but surely it can only get better..
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 20, 2020, 12:23:43 AM »
Its not an individual thing.  My life is worse than yours etc.  I read last night about Martin Luther King's assassination. All he was doing was trying to make things better for black people in the USA who held the same jobs as their white counterparts but were paid less, and had much worse conditions. 

Would you feel it right or fair if you were doing exactly the same job as your next door neighbour, but you were on minimum wage and she got £3 an hour more.  You were just as efficient as her, but she was right handed.  You were left handed.  That was the only difference.


When I was 19 I was training women to do the same job as me who were over 21 and starting on more money than I was getting, we were setting up a new office with new staff, so I do relate to this, I was very resentful at the time, nobody stood up for me.

Funny enough the film Selma about Martin Luther King is on TV now as I write this just put it on record as I need to go to bed.  He was a good man, see little old racist me praising a black man, he was head and shoulders above many of the rabble rioting today and right in expecting equal pay for equal work.  But this was in  the USA, George Floyd was killed in the USA not here.  Britain has all sorts of protection for immigrants and ethnic peoples to the detriment of the natives.


The BBC is wall to wall hard done by black people, even Covid 19 is racist.

I feel strongly that I and people like me are being blamed for things that we are not guilty of, knock on the doors of descendants of slave owners not me, pick on Arabs for a change they sold black people to white slavers and kept them too.  I feel I am being squeezed out of the only country I have ever known and I have nowhere to go. How long before we are in little boats heading for asylum?

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« Reply #26 on: Jun 20, 2020, 03:35:45 AM »
Blooming heck, Ive rattled your cage!!

You may consider me a racist, but I'm not rude and don't make personal insults to other forum members even when I disagree with them,
we should be able to debate issues without name calling.

So however hard a white persons life has been a black persons has to be worse, thats bias against one race from another isnt that racism?  Its bash the wicked white person who seems to be blamed for everything and not a word about the role of Arabs in the slave trade, who were still at it long after the abolition of slavery by Britain and America are still at it today.

Anyway, I'm off to polish my jackboots and dust off my shrine to Hitler before I go to bed.


Don't play the innocent, you have admitted several times on this forum that you are a racist, if it wasn't for that I would never have said you are a racist, I am not that rude and I would have kept my thoughts to myself.
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 20, 2020, 07:24:44 AM »

So however hard a white persons life has been a black persons has to be worse.
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My thoughts exactly, how the **** do they know.
 What they can't seem to get In their thick heads, the rabble of screaming rioters  have taken their cause back a hundred years.

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« Reply #28 on: Jun 20, 2020, 07:37:22 AM »
It's nonsense of course, the people in the West Indies lived in a nice warm place for a start and had only light work for over half the year. At the same time English families were almost starving, many working the land by hand, and being ripped off by the church and landowners. 100 years later they were driven off their lands and either killed or and herded into towns with nowhere to live. Our people were victims.

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« Reply #29 on: Jun 20, 2020, 07:56:37 AM »
Alas,I feel as if another class is up and coming to traduce what little my (once rural) country class came from. It is my belief I was bred for cannon fodder. Now I'm gonna be told I had the benefits of Empire and my forefathers benefited fro slavery when I have it we were slaves themselves. The new narrative comes from the public school kids who preach the new socialism themselves whilst living exclusive lives pocketing top jobs. How sick are these folk. And all the time we're bringing in new folk to crowd this joint,building over our land,bringing in new labour to lower wages. Wottsgoin on! How come I'm thinking the new Naszti Party is the Labour Party.  It seems a complete turnabout when I begin to think I have time for the wealthy landowners cols they seem to be keeping parts of Britain green...thos some,too,selling out for the dosh...the place is falling to bits.