Robbing the poor to pay the poor ?

[Papaumau]

£1bn plan is too little, too late

Closing the stable door after the horse had bolted - that's what Nick Clegg did yesterday as he unveiled a coalition policy supposedly designed to tackle youth unemployment.

You always know when David Cameron's heart isn't in an initiative: He sends out his Lib Dem clone to put on his well-rehearsed Mr Sincerity act.

The gloriously-named £1billion Youth Contract is designed to assist jobless young people get back into work or education. But they had to wait until the figure for the so-called lost generation had reached 1,163,000 before they did anything.

The number of 16 to 24-year-old NEETs (not in education, employment or training) is a national disgrace. And this new package is just too little, too late.

What is more sickening is that it has been suggested that they will find this money by again cutting the working tax credits that millions of families rely on to hold their heads above water.

What is even worse is that once these short-term contracts of work or education are finished we will find these young people thrown straight back onto the dole again.

In the meantime all that will have been achieved by this dodgy bit of sleight-of-hand will be that the employers that do this will take their government hand-out, and then wait for another handout when they do it all over again, and in the process the youth unemployment figures will have been fiddled.

I have to ask: Do these people think that we are stupid or something ?

[Rita Postlethwaite]

Yes, sadly Papa, I think they do and they are in for a rude awakening when we start fighting back!

[Oldtimer]

Its like Cosmetic Surgery looks good for a while and then colapses?

[Dottie1943]

Its like Cosmetic Surgery looks good for a while and then colapses?

 

[Papaumau]

So true, so true good people !

I wish it was the general election RIGHT NOW as I really feel like doing bad stuff to a certain few that have been ripping us off for far too long.

"Come the revolution !" as Wolfie Smith used to say !

GGGGGGGGGGGGggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !

[David G]

I wish it was the general election RIGHT NOW, why? is there a new political party around?

To put which party in government? surely not Gordon Browns henchmen and women who's one aim in life seems to be to destroy our country, wasn't thirteen years long enough to do that? or do you want them to finish the job? the thought of that happening sends a shiver down my spine.

 Long live the coalition, full term please.

[Oldtimer]

Unfortunately all we can do at the moment is grin and bare it only hoping for by elections where we can vote for NON OF THE ABOVE.
They do not take note of protest and are convinced they are doing what is right for us.
Sunday Express headlines people are starving Charities that give out food parcels are struggling because of budget cuts!!
Will the last person standing here shut the fridge door?
If there is enough electricity to power it?

[Papaumau]

I wish it was the general election RIGHT NOW, why? is there a new political party around?

To put which party in government? surely not Gordon Browns henchmen and women who's one aim in life seems to be to destroy our country, wasn't thirteen years long enough to do that? or do you want them to finish the job? the thought of that happening sends a shiver down my spine.

 Long live the coalition, full term please.

Hi David G.....

I have been waiting for a true "third way" for many years but all I have received is the same-old-same-old as after the original Thatcherite government were deep-sixed by the electorate and Blair's version of right-of-centre New-Labour just carried on most of the Tory polices after a number of landslide victories; after the same electorate saw through Blair's - and Brown's - terribly flawed vision of British politics and booted them out too, all we got afterwards was another weak Tory-led coalition government that does not even have a working majority of it's own.

The fact that they had to make a deal with the Liberal Democrat "devil", which produced one of the most unholy-alliances that Britain has ever seen means that all we are getting now is much more of the same with Nick Clegg working as the acceptable face of Conservatism.

( Taking a breath..... )

Now I hope that once we eventually see what Ed Miliband stands for, ( his father was an intellectual Marxist BTW ), we may find that at last we will have a truly left-of-centre government that cares about the British people and not just a few of their rich, indolent and privileged pals.

PLEASE... not more of the same ! 

[xetog]

I don't think that I should say what I really think or I would get chucked off the forum.  As a youngster my father was staunch Labour and I followed suit until I helped vote in Harold Wilson.  What a crook! Bust at least it made me look at polotics in a new light and I have voted Tory ever since.  Not any more.  With so many broken promises already, I can no longer give my support to such a party, but Ed Milliband and that bunch of disposses ed Marxists.. NO WAY! 

What though is the alternative?  I too would like a line to say None of the above and the number of people voting thus should be counted to let our political masters know what we think of them and how little support they really have from the British, especially English people.
M.

[Oldtimer]

When every party is below support unless someone new comes along I would vote NON Of THE ABOVE perhaps if there where quite a few someone
may take notice.
My family where life long Labour supporters by Tradition.
I could not with a clear conscience vote for them or the Coalition.
So what is left being British I expect help from  the people I vote for.
The standards we should live by do no longer appear in Sport.
Rugby and Football and even Cricket fiasco's,Music & entertainment THE X factor and also
HUMOUR or lack of it IS DECENDING INTO ANERCHY (Jonathan Ross fiasco)
Its time for the silent Majority to say enough is enough!!!

[Angelo]

What might be a good Idea is that when the next election comes round, Instead of the politicians telling us what they are going to do for us (usualy nothing)
 We tell them what they are going to do for Us ! to get our vote !
A people's manifesto ?
anybody want to start the list ?

[xetog]

Now that's a brilliant idea, there are so many just where do you start?  perhaps just one to start:

     English must be taught as the first language in all schools and pupils must be fluent before entering     mainstream education.

M.

i can't wait to see some more!

[Angelo]

Nationalise companies who opperate PFIs. The profits can then go back into the economy rather than rich peoples pockets or offshore bank accounts .

[xetog]

Good one.  I am generally against the idea of nationalisation, but I think we are reaching the stage where something simply has to be done about Pfi's.
M.

[Dottie1943]

Sorry guys but I don't think they - anybody - would listen to our disparate suggestions about what we would want from the next government as each of us would inject our own dogma into these requests.

I certainly do see that many of the electorate are now so disappointed by the politicians that have come before that they are either just not willing to bother to vote any more or they just vote for those politicians that promise them the most.

I think it might be a good thing to search our needs and our hopes as if the government that we are going to put in might be inclined to look after our demographic in British society rather than the ones that have always been historically looked after. 

This was the first 3 paragraphs of Papas last post, I have deleted the remainder because it was a chapter again and we cannot allow this to continue on the forum, it is not fair one one person takes almost a complete page to make his/her point of view. Sorry Papa.

Please please do try harder to keep your postings to a minimum, I accept that this is a very immotive subject but try not to almost sound like you are dictating to the rest of us we all have our opinions and that is what makes this forum different to lots of others because we allow you ALL to have a say.