Author Topic: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.  (Read 3593 times)

Ivanhoe

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The Tories have betrayed
Pensioners

From
Tony Blair
John Prescott
Harriet Harman
Gordon Brown   

Too many of today's older people - many of whom took part in the war effort helped build post- war Britain - do not enjoy security in their retirement. The combination of low incomes and the extra Tory costs they face for eye and dental services, water charges, and VAT on domestic fuel leaves many struggling to meet the most essential bills. They have little if anything left to enjoy the social, leisure and educational activities that many younger people take for granted and which older people understandably want to share.

It is not just pensioners' incomes which give cause for concern. Even more pensioners find that fear of crime, poor and expensive public transport and the loss of local services and facilities restrict their lives unnecessarily. Having paid tax all their working lives a whole generation now finds it cannot be sure of the National Health Service or the continuing care which they have helped to provide for others.

Millions of people face poverty in retirement. Tory policies have failed too many of today's pensioners and too many of tomorrow's. Today's pensioners have lost £20 a week through the Government breaking the earnings link with the basic state pension. SERPS has been more than halved in value. Millions have been encouraged to join personal pensions which, for many, are costly and inadequate. 600,000 people were mis-sold personal pensions and only 7,000 have been compensated.

The Tories have betrayed pensioners and, while the Tories have let down pensioners, they have also failed to look after the interests of all British taxpayers including all pensioners. Over the past ten years the promotion of personal pensions has cost British taxpayers £19 billion more than will be saved in the future.

Now the Tories propose to abolish the basic state pension and to privatise all state pension provision. They propose to spend £5 billion in the first five years and a total of £312 billion on their dogmatic proposals. They have not said how they will pay for their plans; nor who will pay them and by how much. But Tory priorities are very clear. Not one penny of this money will help today's pensioners. Not one penny will help pensioners who retire in poverty in the coming years.

Labour's priorities are different.

Labour has always done its duty by pensioners and the next Labour government will do the same. Labour will defend the basic state pension: without means-testing and ensure that it remains the foundation of our pensions policy.

Labour will retain SERPS' vital role in providing a good second-tier pension for those who cannot get a good value-for-money pension in private provision.

Labour will encourage companies to provide good occupational pensions. It will create the framework for better second pension schemes which will offer better value - for money, flexibility and security than many people on low and modest incomes can enjoy today.

Labour's pensions strategy must, over time, aim to ensure that people in retirement have a sufficient income from the state and second pensions to avoid having to claim means ?tested benefits. We will strike the right balance between state and private provision and a fair balance between the needs of today's and tomorrow's pensioners.
 

The Labour government will take immediate steps to assist pensioners. We will assist all pensioners by cutting back VAT on fuel from 8 per cent to 5 per cent. We will take action to tackle the failings of the social security system which prevent 1 million pensioners receiving the Income Support to which they are entitled. We will use part of the resources raised by the windfall levy to enable the young unemployed to help improve the insulation of pensioners' homes.

We will act to tackle the unfair lottery of community care. The Conservatives have betrayed a generation of older people who were promised care from the cradle to the grave. Pensioners now have to pay for care that they used to get free on the NHS.
 

The closure of long- stay NHS beds and the introduction of the Tories' NHS market has shunted elderly patients from free NHS care to means - tested social care. Patients living in one part of the country are having to pay for care which is available free elsewhere. Under the Tories where you live determines the care you get and the price you pay. At least 40,400 pensioners every year have had to sell their family homes to pay for long- term care.
Pensioners who have paid all their lives for the welfare state find that under the Tories, the NHS isn't there for them when they need it.

Some of the longest hospital waits are for operations, such as hip replacements which are particularly needed by pensioners. Around 200,000 people are waiting for an in patient appointment for orthopaedics. Almost 8,000 of these people are waiting for more than a year. Many of the people waiting for orthopaedic appointments are pensioners.

Labour will cut waiting lists by cutting spending on red tape and bureaucracy. We will end the Tory internal market in the National Health Service and transfer money which is currently spent on excessive management costs to front- line services. As a first step we will save £100 million which will fund an extra 100,000 operations a year and cut waiting lists.

Labour's election manifesto includes a commitment to a review of the position of pensioners in Britain. The review will report on the following priority issues as a matter of urgency and receive representations on the state pension including the earnings link; second tier pensions including SERPs and community care. The review will include the National Pensioners Convention.

Labour will put pensioners' voices at the heart of government. We will ensure wider consultation of pensioners about issues which affect their lives.

We will encourage .the development of pensioners' councils and forums so that pensioners' voices can be at the heart of decision-making in local authorities as well as central Government.
 

 We will include pensioners' organisations in this process, in particular the National Pensioners Convention which is the largest co-ordinating body for representative pensioners' organisations.

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The original was printed and published by the
Labour Party, John Smith House, 150 Walworth Road, London SE17
c  Feb 1997

radar41

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 03:01:42 PM »
Parties make alot of promises when they're not in power.

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 03:41:41 PM »
How do you know ?, you can never be bothered to look anything up.

Wrinkles

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 11:49:11 AM »
"The original was printed and published by the
Labour Party, John Smith House, 150 Walworth Road, London SE17
c  Feb 1997
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Regarding the original as a whole, I have no doubt that this will amended slightly and then repeated for the next GE.

Of course what should happen is that almost every reference to the "Tories" should be amended and replaced with "Labour" Then it makes interesting reading, because very little has changed
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Ivanhoe

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 12:13:50 PM »
Wrinkles, Very little has changed because this Government have continued Thatcher's fundamental policies since they came to power in 1997

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 12:33:46 PM »
What all of them? Nah! I don't think so. They kept the best ones of course. Others they tinkered with and renamed them as their own, again and again and again until any semblance of the original was lost.
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Ivanhoe

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 01:14:00 PM »
New Labour haver continued free market policies.

New Labour have continued Privatisation.  Taxation.  Pensions.  These were all key policies under the former Tory government.


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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 01:56:41 PM »
And by your own admission you have voted for those policies old chump by voting new labour.

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 04:39:19 PM »
Ivanhoe - I would have more time for your opinion if
you could wind yourself on 30 years.

You are  living in a time warp.

Yes we can all learn from history, but you are building your
own slant on previously laid foundations.

This is now - the way Labour operate is that they lurch from one
disaster to another. Showing little control and supervision, even
when having an army of civil and public servants at its beck and call.

No foresight whatsoever. Brown and his Clowns to go.

Do you support this Circus or not?

Ivanhoe

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 05:05:13 PM »
John, The main problem with New Labour is that it is trying to appeal to all people having ditched Labour's core values from when Neil Kinnock decided to reform Labour by taking it to the right from around 1994 when John Smith died and Tony Blair took over.

We have in New Labour a government dodging and diving, instead of returning to their core Labour principles and standing their gound.

I appreciate you're initial comment, but im not really after praise ect, im just stating truths that do go back around 15 years.

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 10:29:48 PM »
When Blair became the Leader of the Labour Party.

He lived and enjoyed a champagne lifestyle as opposed to that normally associated with the Party.

He saw the rich pickings that could be had and without leaks, totally hidden.

The Party at that level became corrupted, some may call it losing sight of your roots.

I expect that many thought that Brown would put the Party back on the rails.

But rather then failing he never even tried...

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Re: This is what Blair, Brown, Prescott, and Harman stated before the 1997 G/E.
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 10:51:31 PM »
I'de agree with that.

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It seems we are not shot of the grinning fool either, First president of the EU? What odds, if the Irish allow themselves to be bullied into a yes vote, which looks increasingly probable.  :-\
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I cannot see how any minister from any country in Europe can hold permanent Presidency. 

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I cannot see how any minister from any country in Europe can hold permanent Presidency. 


You cant? Why? You come across as relatively intelligent despite delusions of labour, Surely you understand this is the EU. You know that immensely corrupt body of unelected free loaders over in Brussels. This means that grease the right palms and ANYTHING is possible. Fortunately the presidency is not a permanent position but if they want it to be, it will be.  Better get some practice in...after me now "Gord save our gracious Blair...."  ::)
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