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Ivanhoe

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Re: The state pension
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2009, 11:34:57 AM »
///I have seen what I would say are hire cars stopping outside DSS offices,
containing women with shawls carrying babies and running in///

So you would deny them financial help would you ?


Papaumau

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Re: The state pension
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2009, 12:26:19 PM »
   I as a pensioner now have a limited time on this earth and have a great sense of my own mortality. I have worked for all my life and paid my taxes without fail; I have worked and lived my life as an honourable, fair and honest man. In my naivety I now realise that I have been a fool. For those that I would look up to; those who would show the moral example that we should all follow, have turned out to be self seeking, greedy money grabbing leeches that care nothing for the citizenry of this country and even less for those who are now pensioners.
     I therefore now take the selfish view and strive to take care of me and those in my position. My miserable, one protest vote is as nothing, except to me. I will know that I have made my protest against those who think more of people in other countries and nothing of those who worked and built this country.
     Only recently we have heard of immigrants being given two and a half million pound houses to live in; and yet pensioners only warrant a rise that can be measured in pence. A vote for the main parties is a vote for the status quo, a vote for the main parties is a vote against the pensioner, and is a vote to allow them to treat us like the sheep we are. We are only a hindrance to them, we have outlived our usefulness; we are past our tax bearing years and as such they do not want us.
     This being the case and as I can count my time here in only decades, I will use my vote to protest against the unfairness directed towards the pensioner of this country, and would call on all others in this position to do the same. It may be that it is a futile gesture, but I protest not just for me but all those that come after. I would call on all other pensioners to do the same, remember the pensioners vote can now be counted in millions.


Aptis....

Not wanting to get caught up in a barny between John and Ivanhoe I will answer your very poignant posting directly.

I know how you feel about being just one person trying to fight the beasts out there all on your own and I want to tell you that you ARE NOT on your own.

There are many groups on and off the internet that think like you and me and the quicker we all realise this the better for everybody in our situation.

Please look at my new posting today entitled "People power can win" and you will see how - if we all start to sing from the same hymn-sheet and we support each-other in our individual fights - we CAN effect what goes on at the top.

This is not an easy fight but as my ole Irish grannie once said...."Nothing worth having ever comes easily!"

All the best.....
Regards....

Papaumau.



John

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Re: The state pension
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2009, 12:34:22 PM »
Ivanhoe is a Troll - but is in denial.

Every Forum/Board has one.

Normal behaviour to take snippets - so hence out of context from postings
and make an open baited comment.

I do not wish to have any contact with Trolls. They deter people from
posting or having an opinion.

 

Papaumau

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Re: The state pension
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2009, 12:46:23 PM »
Yeah, Ok John.....

But that should not take over your existence on any discussion board online or off-line.

The best way to deal with trolls is to either ignore them or to remove them if the management think that this is merited.

In my experience online - which is not inconsiderable - flaming any individual just brings you down to their level.

I prefer to find the truth and the important bits out of what Ivanhoe says rather than castigating him all of the time and wasting my online efforts and my fingertip skin as I do so.

NOW...back to the topic please.
Regards....

Papaumau.



John

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Re: The state pension
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2009, 11:07:41 AM »
You are right Papaumau

But I get feeling that some posters do not have your level (or mine) of experience
with forums.

At least I am not blaming GB for this (yet).