Probe call on the elderly in Scotland !

[Papaumau]

Labour yesterday called for an enquiry into the abuse of the elderly.

The plea came from MSP Johann Lamont after public health minister, Shona Robison, announced steps taken to tackle the problem.  Robison said that £24 million had been spent to help to recruit staff and to set up and establish adult protection units.

Lamont said that an enquiry would identify the extent of the problem and would make a "real difference" to the protection of older people.

About time too I say !

Now, what about the rest of the country ?

[Papaumau]

So, don't any of you think that such a probe is a good thing or are you staying silent because it was a Labour move ?

Mark my words that once - and IF - the Tories get in next time round we will see the care of the elderly - that don't have a lot of money to spend on private care - being put right onto the furthest back-burner that they can find if not used as a method of cash-saving cuts.

The only way that the ordinary people of Britain - in old age - can be safe and secure in their final years is if there is a strong and well-funded welfare state. In the hands of the Tories the welfare state will be slowly dismantled until all such services are run under the gentle auspices of the privateers.

Do we REALLY want that ?

[Hells Granny]

I can't see pensioners becoming a force to reckon with in any way, because we are too apathetic in many instances to get off our tushies and fight in any united way for the decent standard of living which we should be entitled to, by virtue of the value we have given the country in our working lives.

This goes for all parts of the so called United Kingdom!

No, we are too divided and too keen to slag each other off on these boards, than in putting our idealogical differences aside in order to present a united front to the Government in support of change to our betterment.

Most of us need a good shaking!

Cheers, HG

[Papaumau]

Sadly HG, I have to agree that SOME of the people in Britain are unwilling to do what needs to be done to ensure that all our rights are upheld. In fact I called this "the British disease" many years ago.

Again sadly, the people who do still sit on their "tushies" are among the ones that will lap up what they eventually get when WE fight for it for them.

I have always tried NOT to get too downhearted by this quality in British society as I do know that there are quite a few of us that do care about what happens to us and that do get up off our tushies and vote when needs be.

As was discussed before here; the government are aware of the "grey vote" and if there even is such a thing we should ensure that it is maintained.

[Ivanhoe]

Hells Granny, You have got it in one.

Apathy rules Britain.  We get the government's we deserve.

[Ivanhoe]

Papaumau, The government in m view have no interest in the grey vote whatsover.

New Labour are a sham, and Blair with Brown have completely wasted their time in office followsing 18 yewars of Tory rule in this country.

But even then I dont blame government's for the state of Britain, I blame the people.

Traditional Labour were not electable during the Thatcher/ Major years, hence Labour moving to the right, ditching it's core principles, just to get into power and continue what Thatcher started.

You couldnt make it up.
 

[Ivanhoe]

Papaumau, This wasnt a Labour move, it was New Labour reacting to circumstances.

[Papaumau]

I STILL believe that there are enough of us out there to keep any politicos on their toes.

I have already admitted that many elderly peope vote traditonally instead of radically and I am sure that some of them are very set in their ways because of this syndrome but that does not say that there is not a hard core of us out there and on the internet and the streets that ARE willing to put ourselves out to try to fix things.

Something that I keep in my mind is that being an ex-civil-servant I KNOW that all of the political parties - especially the encumbent government - keep a close eye on what we are discussing on "the Net" and they spend thousands of pounds every month for snoopers to read websites like this one and my own and others,

There is a place called GCHQ that spends it's time doing nothing else and believe me when I tell you that they don't just watch out for potential terrorists or people committing sedition but they try very hard to keep a grip on all of the discussions that criticise the government.

Even world-wide there is a very hi-tec watching system that has been applied by America and Europe and other countries that listens in to all of our communications including e-mails, radio and telephone calls and internet traffic and this is called ECHELON.

Read about it Here:

http://world-information.org/wio/infostructure/100437611746/100438658879?opmode=contents

http://world-information.org/wio/infostructure/100437611746/100438658967

This is NOT a conspiracy, it is REAL !

[Ivanhoe]

Papaumau, I know its real, ive been involved for 20 years, and I started out as a traditional Labour activist in the 80s, but withdrew my membership of Labour when Blair took Labour to the right.

[Papaumau]

Try reading ALL of my post Ivanhoe !

[Ivanhoe]

I did.

[Papaumau]

Maybe, but you seem to be coming across as a one-trick-pony and you are either unwilling or unable to read anything that is not flavour of YOUR month.

I think that we agree on the lurch to the right that New-Labour took under Blair but that is one "pony" that has been whipped quite enough don't you think ? ( please excuse the pun ).

[Ivanhoe]

Its reported that we are a free country, with freedom of speech, so you tell me ?

[Papaumau]

Of course it is, but if you keep saying the same thing over and over again - ad-nauseam - some people are inclined to shut their minds to what you have to say.

[Ivanhoe]

This is the British attitude to politics in general, so when people dont believe the obvious, it kinda makes a person try harder to convince them.