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John

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Islam4UK Banned
« on: January 12, 2010, 10:08:01 PM »
Brown plays to the Media and some
people who are not able to see the
bigger picture, by banning.

UK Governments decided that the UK wanted
a multi-culture society. That we had the tolerance
for one.

That may all be very well - until you start attacking
other Countries and it affects someone in
the UK.

There were or still are many slogans painted in
some areas that say 'Kill Blair' 'Blair Liar' over
the lies that led to a huge amount of bloodshed.

An example of feelings. I wouldn't want him killed,
but without doubt he is a liar.

But whatever happens 'Muslim must not come to mean Terrorist.'
but Brown is fuelling that belief.

Aptis

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 09:33:35 PM »
You are too late: the die is cast as a friend of mine is often heard to say. The word Muslim and the word terrorist are now inseparable, think of a bombing anywhere in the world and you will most likely think Muslim. You think this is not the case? Then what other religion is using bombing to try and further their goals, certainly not those of the Catholic faith, nor those of the Buddhist faith and I have not heard of the Church of Later Day Saints using these methods. None of the African religions, Anglican or even the Coptic religions find this method in favour. Perhaps if you look through the litany of carnage that this religion has wrought upon the face of this world you may see that the two names for good or ill will now always be interchangeable.
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 26 February 1993 - World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
13 March 1993 - 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. The single-day attacks resulted in over 250 civilian fatalities and 700 injuries.
28 July 1994 - Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation, leaves 85 dead and more than 300 injured.
24 December 1994 - Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
25 June 1996 - Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
17 November 1997 - Luxor attack, 6 armed islamic militants attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
14 February 1998 - The 1998 Coimbatore bombings occurred in the city of Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 46 people were killed and over 200 were injured in 13 bomb attacks within a 12 km radius.
7 August 1998 - 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
4 September 1999 - A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, kills near 300 people.
12 October 2000 - Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
11 September 2001 - 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[124]
13 December 2001 - Suicide attack on India's parliament in New Delhi. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. Allegedly done by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba.
27 March 2002 - Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
7 May 2002 - Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
24 September 2002 - Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[125][126]
12 October 2002 - Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[127]
16 May 2003 - Casablanca Attacks - 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafaia Jihadia.
11 March 2004 - Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
1 September 2004 Approximately 344 civilians including 186 children, are killed during the Beslan school hostage crisis.[128][129]
2 November 2004 - Ritual murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.
4 February 2005 - Muslim militants attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
7 July 2005 - Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
23 July 2005 - Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
29 October 2005 - 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[130]
9 November 2005 - 2005 Amman bombings. Over 60 killed and 115 injured, in a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan.[131][132] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[133]
7 March 2006 - 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. An attack attributed to Lashkar-e-Taiba by Uttar Pradesh government officials, over 28 killed and over 100 injured, in a series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi.[134] Uttar Pradesh government officials.
11 July 2006 - Mumbai, India. 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings were a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay). 209 people lost their lives and over 700 were injured in the attacks.
14 August 2007 - Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
26 July 2008 - Ahmedabad, India. Islamic militants detonate at least 16 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 49 dead and 160 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence[135]. Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of militants suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India[136].
13 September 2008 - Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 2 people dead.
26 November 2008 - Mumbai, India. Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital. A group calling itself the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of India suspects Islamic militants based in Pakistan are responsible. Ajmal Kasab, one of the militants, was caught alive.[137][138]
25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
28 October 2009 - Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 die with 200 or more injured.
3 December 2009 - Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[139]
1 January 2010 - Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 90 people.[140] 

Billtr96sn

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 09:47:08 PM »
I heard it said the other day "Not all muslims are terrorists,but all terrorists these days are muslims"

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 10:16:13 PM »
   Yes indeed, and it is unfortunate that this is the name, and this is the legacy their their brethren has bestowed upon them.
   One cannot even say that it is only the lower classes of that society, or those lacking in education that follow the terrorist line.
   If we can have doctors one day healing the sick and the next attempting to take lives at Glasgow airport, then one has no reason to trust any of that religion.

   This is why I have no religion but my own, because it always ends up with these fanatics saying, "My god is better than your god and I'll kill you to prove it"! But to discuss religion - as a subject is futile because it is all down to belief and no amount of logic or discussion will change anyones faith in THEIR faith. But this is not the topic; the topic is about those of a certain faith that have given all others of that faith a tarnished reputation that they will never now live down. I have no doubt whatsoever that there are decent law abiding Muslims in this country. But their own people have made it an impossibility to trust any of them. Did those patients that were being treated by those doctors suspect that the next time they heard their names would be because they had tried to fire bomb Glasgow airport. Where in the Hippocratic oath does it say that you heal one day and kill the next? The cleansing of this faith lies not with those who are outside it - it lies in the hands of those who are believers in that faith! 

Oldwrinklyone

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 12:13:26 PM »
My favourite Irish comic sums it up rather well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=winu_C_X5mw

John

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 02:52:24 PM »
Hes a comedian?

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 04:25:40 PM »

lwt big cheese

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 10:30:19 AM »
Aptis wrote;
"Then what other religion is using bombing to try and further their goals, certainly not those of the Catholic faith,.."

You've never heard of the IRA then?

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 11:22:32 AM »
Aptis, you say that none of the African religions use these methods.

Do you make up your 'facts' or get get them from the Sunday Sport Big Book Of Knowing Everything.?

Aptis

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 02:23:43 PM »
lwt big cheese

     I may be behind the times and I am not half as sharp as I used to be, but when you say the IRA are furthering their goals by means of bombing, I take it you know something I don’t?
     I was under the impression that the IRA had thrown in the towel on the terrorism front due to America threatening to hunt down all terrorists after 9/11. Now I know there are a number of bombings and attempted bombings laid at the doorstep of the Muslims in very recent history, but I have failed to hear of an ongoing bombing campaign that the IRA are currently involved in.
    If memory serves me correctly it is over 10 years now since there was murderous attack sanctioned by the IRA. Like I say I am an old man now and things pass me by so if there are still active cells of the IRA with a current bombing program; then of course you will be right and there are 2 religious organisations in the melting pot.

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 02:37:16 PM »
Oh I see. You are looking at today only. Sorry didn't realise.

So killing tens of thousands of Muslims in Fallujah is of your radar then? Good old white Americans did that.

What about the Israli's then. One year ago they were using white phosphorus on women and children. Does that count?

What about the Chinese raping and torturing the Tibetans? Or themselves even! Well their own population I mean. That's also current.

Do the Russians killing Georgians count? That was August before last. Loooooong time ago.

Do you wish me to go on?

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 02:38:27 PM »
Billtr96sn


   Well I am perfectly willing to be corrected; I realise that I do not have all the facts at my finger tips. You quote that I get my facts from the book of knowing everything; so I would be grateful if you would tell me which other African religion has an international bombing campaign currently in place.

     I have to say that I have heard of none on the TV networks, nor in the newspapers, and this is after all where I get my information from. So I would be grateful if you can give me the African religion or sect that is, at this moment in time using munitions to further their aims. Can you also give me an Idea as to what these aims may be, and when was the last attack?      

lwt big cheese

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 02:52:04 PM »
Countries tend to have borders drawn up by white men.

Ethnicity, tribes, races tend not to use those arbitrary borders.


Anyway, if I may be so bold may I suggest, Somalia, Rwanda, Niger, Anjouan, Liberia, Eritrea, Burundi, Ethiopia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Mali, Angola, are either waring at the moment or within the last couplke of years. And that's just off the top of my head!

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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 03:05:54 PM »
    lwt big cheese

    You wish to change the subject and talk of Israel, I am not one to turn away from this subject. Though at the moment my time is limited and it seems that this is my last posting for some time.

     Israel is a terrorist state, born out of terrorism and was the first people to show the world how to become a terrorist. These are the people that kidnapped and hung British troops, and they cannot deny their roots in the stern gang. The first major atrocity in modern times was the Blowing up of the King David Hotel which showed the way for all other terrorists that followed. They even had a Prime minister who himself was a terrorist.     

 Just a bit of the history:-

  Assassination of government official outside Palestine: first used against the British in Cairo, 6 November, 1944 when Lord Moyne, Secretary of State, was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the Irgun and later leader of the Stern Gang was behind the plan.

    Taking of hostages to put pressure on a government: first used against the British in Tel Aviv, 18 June, 1946.

    Blowing up government offices with their civilian employees and visitors: first used against the British in Jerusalem, 22 July, 1946. The toll was 91 Britons, and 46 injured in King David Hotel. Begin, who masterminded and carried out the attack admitted that the massacre was coordinated with and carried out under the instruction of the Haganah.
Booby-trapped suitcase: first used against the British Embassy in Rome, 13 October, 1946.

    Booby-trapped car parked alongside buildings: first used against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December, 1946.

    Flogging of hostages: first used against the British in Tel Aviv, Natanya and Rishon, 29 December, 1946.

Today they still use terror tactics on the Palestinians and justify it as defense. They stole Palestine by force of arms.


But I can only deal with one subject at a time and my aging brain goes into melt down if I have to think of more than one thing at once. Hence I’m off to have my Horlicks 


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Re: Islam4UK Banned
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 03:22:59 PM »
I don't wish to change the subject at all. I was trying to assist by answering your question:
"Then what other religion is using bombing to try and further their goals,..."

But now you've answered your own question!