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John

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British Airways - the truth
« on: March 16, 2010, 07:06:09 PM »
Unite cabin crew members at British Airways are now days away from strike action. Much of the media has portrayed the crew as overpaid, underworked and prepared to bring BA down to its knees. Nothing can be further from the truth.
 
The last thing BA crew want to do is to go on strike. In fact, the crew are preparing to take industrial action as a last resort because they care so much about BA and want the airline to have a future as a premier carrier.
 
In November 2009, BA imposed changes that cut over 1,000 crew members from flights, cuts that cabin crew believe have been a disaster for the on-board service quality. BA’s European flights have seen 25 per cent reductions in crew numbers and on long-haul flights crew compliments have seen reductions of between 1 and 3.
 
Unite crew members realise that BA is operating in tough financial conditions. That’s why they offered the airline £62m in savings – the same amount BA has saved by removing cabin crew from flights. Crew were prepared to compromise on crew numbers, take a pay cut, and take cuts in their terms and conditions. But no matter how much the union offered, BA simply refused to accept. Unite believes that all along BA was merely playing lip-service to the negotiating process. We believe that BA has another agenda entirely – smashing the collective voice of cabin crew.
 
BA’s management is becoming increasingly macho. Under Willie Walsh’s leadership the company has undertaken a range of union busting tactics. Most of the crew’s local union leaders are either suspended or awaiting disciplinaries. A further 30 union members have been suspended on spurious grounds. Staff are living in fear of who could be next. BA has also spent months encouraging other BA staff to help break the strike by training up as cabin crew.
 
BA has threatened to remove the travel concessions from any crew member who goes on strike – this is a particularly vindictive move when around one third of crew use it to commute to work.

The way forward
Unite and its members did not want this strike.  But we have been left with no option because management will not listen.
 
We are, however, ready to resume talks at any time. Crew are prepared to offer compromise and flexibility.
This dispute can only be avoided if BA is prepared to make a serious attempt to finding a negotiated settlement. It could start by putting the offer the airline made last week back on the table so that Unite could give members the right to accept or reject BA's proposal. Unite is prepared to halt the strike while members are consulted and will stand by crew's decision. The ball is clearly in BA's court.

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As usual in industrial disputes, some media and politicians are taking the side of the employer ignoring the genuine concerns of workers. You can help get BA crew’s message to a wider audience by forwarding this email to a friend.  Check on Unite’s website to find out the real truth. www.unitetheunion.org/ba 

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cheddar-caveman

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Re: British Airways - the truth
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 08:43:59 PM »
The Truth (as Unite sees it!)

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 11:48:29 AM »
Well John, even although those are NOT your own words I certainly agree this time !

British Airways have been a voracious and powerful beast for many years and they are not loath to using dirty tactics when attempting to compete with the budget carriers. Virgin Airways have taken BA to court TWICE and won both times against dirty practices in the market.

They - BA - have seen their lucrative business and rich-folk market shrink and they have unsuccessfully tried to steal budget trade from the low-cost airlines. After these moves failed to work they started to trim down costs by trimming down their cabin crews and ground staff and the willingness of the unions to go with these moves was noted by all. NOW...they are attempting to IMPOSE more cost-cutting rules on their workforce and at last the unions have said "enough is enough".

As already said above, the cabin crews and members of Unite DO NOT want a strike as they want to keep their jobs. If a strike means that BA could go down the tubes then that will be the fault of Willie Walsh and his hardball negotiators and not the fault of the beleaguered BA staff .
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2010, 09:42:24 PM »
Willie Walsh as been given a job to do by BA. He's playing hard ball against an hard ball union. He's got one hell of a job to make BA profitable and he cannot do it the way things are at the moment. One thing for sure Willie Walsh and the union bosses won't lose any wages during the strike action..
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2010, 01:02:11 PM »
Does anybody know what the stumbling block is in this industrial action ?

Well, I do !

The strike was about to be avoided when Walsh made an offer to the unions. As soon as the Union looked as if they were going to accept that offer IT WAS WITHDRAWN by Walsh.

If that offer was to be allowed to stand the strike could be averted tomorrow and almost everybody would be able to get back to work.

If you don't believe me then look at this: http://bit.ly/9AYbzv
« Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 01:30:07 PM by Papaumau »
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2010, 01:27:01 PM »
Taken from the report you directed us to Papaumau:- "Unite had planned to hold an electronic ballot of its members on BA’s last-minute formal offer to resolve the dispute. But BA chief executive Willie Walsh withdrew this offer after the union announced strike dates today. Walsh said the deal was conditional on strike action not going ahead."

The above paragraph clearly states why the offer was withdrawn. Having been made the offer, why did Unite think it acceptable to immediately anounce strike dates? Why didn't they accept the offer then?

No management will retain offers on the table when they are met with this sort of contempt.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2010, 01:36:18 PM »
Aw come off it CC. Walsh used that excuse as a reason to be able to withdraw the offer after he had had second thoughts about it.

He knows that all he has to do to stop this industrial action is to re-instate the offer he originally made !

Quite simply, Walsh is playing brinkmanship with the unions as he doesn't want to look weak.

Any "Indian-giver" that breaks his word like that deserves to be hammered by the union.

Walsh is a power-mad bully and everybody that has the ability to see through him knows this !
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2010, 01:38:47 PM »
And to get the offer back on the table all Unite have to do is call off the strike!

Check!

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 02:28:58 PM »
Talks have now finished, and the strike goes ahead. British rail may be on strike over Easter.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2010, 03:37:47 PM »

Walsh is a power-mad bully and everybody that has the ability to see through him knows this !


Agreed

Brown believing in himself again when he spoke up (for once and very late). Obviously
thought he carried the weight to tip the balance.

In reality he helped the strike gain World attention and support (in some quarters).

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2010, 03:55:25 PM »
Walsh is a spokes man for BA who now want to break the union strong hold of the work force. BA staff are just porns in this battle. The BA staff should be very worried and have a good look at Japan air line which as gone broke and 1500 staff have lost their jobs. It sound to me like a replay of the miners strike.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2010, 04:41:48 PM »
On the eve of the strike by BA cabin crew, we can put our hand on our hearts and honestly say we have done all we possibly could to find a peaceful solution to this dispute. This week Unite offered to suspend the strike and all we asked for in return was for BA to put its original deal back on the table to let our members decide.
 
Remember, this dispute is not about gain. Crew are not seeking more money or better conditions. They are fighting because BA stopped negotiating and imposed changes that cut 1,000 crew members from flights – cuts that crew believe are a disaster for BA’s reputation as a premier airline.
 
Crew do live in the real world, they know BA is suffering – they like other workers all over the country during this recession, have been prepared to make big sacrifices to save jobs.

As this dispute has dragged on it has become increasingly clear to Unite that BA wants more than cost savings. Crew offered BA savings to match those made by BA’s crew cuts. Unite believes that Willie Walsh’s end game is to destroy the crew’s union.

Cabin crew have received amazing messages of solidarity from aviation unions from around the world. BA cabin crew now need your support. Attached is a leaflet explaining what this strike is about - please send this to your colleagues and help our members win their fight for a say in their future.

Tony Woodley    Derek Simpson
 
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2010, 04:43:14 PM »
If they want to go on strike transfer the lot to RAF Lynham and do some good for our troops- volunteer them for bomb disposal duties. How any self-respecting Briton can go on strike when our troops are at war on our behalf - ask the young mother and her children who wants to fly to meet her serving husband half-way in Malta, what she would like to do to these *******!

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2010, 04:52:39 PM »
She'll have to wait.

War has never been a luxury of getting what you want when you want.

Not that we should be involved in an illegal war.



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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2010, 07:22:32 PM »
"On the eve of the strike by BA cabin crew, we can put our hand on our hearts and honestly say we have done all we possibly could to find a peaceful solution to this dispute. This week Unite offered to suspend the strike and all we asked for in return was for BA to put its original deal back on the table to let our members decide.

Tony Woodley    Derek Simpson"

How sad that all you have to offer is a quote from these two sad millitants! They aren't going to lose anything from this, just the company, which will probably fold, and us the public who have paid good money in support of our National carrier and now have to cancel our arrangements.

As has been said, Walsh is only a spokesman for BA, with only the company's interest at heart. He is tasked to try to keep the company operating in today's difficult economic climate and to do this he obviously has to make some tough decisions. It is great pity that the employees can't see this and give him their support instead of allowing themselves to be coerced.into taking this disastrous decision.. I feel they will live rue this decision.