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avalonmpk

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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2010, 09:13:50 AM »
She'll have to wait.

War has never been a luxury of getting what you want when you want.

Not that we should be involved in an illegal war.
Your reply is beneath contempt!




John

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2010, 02:10:15 PM »
'Your reply is beneath contempt!'

Which part - let me guess the fluffy travel part.

There is absolutely no reason, except a bundle of lies and
rolling over for the US that we should be at War.

It is a mission based on people slaughter.

It is certainly something to more concerned about
then a change of travel arrangements.

Papaumau

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2010, 03:15:46 PM »
And to get the offer back on the table all Unite have to do is call off the strike!

Check!

Sorry CC, but the move would work the other way round if Walsh was brave enough to re-instate the original offer.

I am sure that both leaders are still available to try to avert this damaging strike and Tony Woodley of Unite would accept that original offer on behalf of his BA workers IF Walsh was man enough to admit that his original offer was still available. For whatever reason it was the withdrawal of that offer which brought the negotiations to an impasse.

Now Walsh knows that if BA is brought down by this intransigence of his it will have been his fault and nobody elses.

In fact I would not be surprised if the rest of ther BA board remove Walsh so that this strike can be avoided !
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2010, 03:34:10 PM »
Sorry but I honestly believe the BA board are well and truly behind Walsh and its as I have said before it's all about breaking the unions strong hold of BA. They will never come back with the original offer. If they do, I will be very surprised.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2010, 03:58:43 PM »
The title of this subject was accidentally apt.

The truth lies within the strategy of that Board.

Walsh looks as much as a puppet as you could look without strings.

After focusing on their London Hubs, it is now time to cut back on staff
and rationalise. The object being greater profit and shareholder return.

You would think that a Labour government would be far more interested,
Brown would have been interested in the nationalisation and as power
to the party when it look place, wouldn't he?


avalonmpk

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Re: British Airways - the truth
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »
'Your reply is beneath contempt!'

Which part - let me guess the fluffy travel part.

There is absolutely no reason, except a bundle of lies and
rolling over for the US that we should be at War.

It is a mission based on people slaughter.

It is certainly something to more concerned about
then a change of travel arrangements.

No, it is about a soldier doing his duty the fact that people voted in this government which went to war the rights and wrongs do not come into it, it is possible that the soldiers limited leave may just be the last time that his family see him alive! People who  called this strike belong to a union which supported the government that sent them to war - almost a third of the government MPs are members of this union. How many of the strikers  are paid far more then the members of  the forces?
It is little short of treason!

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2010, 05:24:09 PM »
Well whatever we say/think now, it's too late! The strike has started and BA faces another mega bill for trying to honour its customer bookings and to keep the company afloat in spite of the efforts of the cabin crew to sink it.

In an ironic sort of justice, it will serve these people right if it does go to the wall. Then we'll see where they get trying for new jobs when their cv's say " successfully ruined BA"! Not a lot of takers there I suspect :-\

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2010, 05:48:06 PM »
Well whatever we say/think now, it's too late! The strike has started and BA faces another mega bill for trying to honour its customer bookings and to keep the company afloat in spite of the efforts of the cabin crew to sink it.

In an ironic sort of justice, it will serve these people right if it does go to the wall. Then we'll see where they get trying for new jobs when their cv's say " successfully ruined BA"! Not a lot of takers there I suspect :-\
BRAVO It takes a man of Wessex to see the truth of the matter. HOME RULE FOR WESSEX OUTLAW STRIKES

cheddar-caveman

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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2010, 07:43:05 PM »
Not sure about the WES bit but I'll settles for the SEX!!!

Just going to watch England/France! Should be interesting ::)

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2010, 01:23:29 PM »
Sorry but I honestly believe the BA board are well and truly behind Walsh and its as I have said before it's all about breaking the unions strong hold of BA. They will never come back with the original offer. If they do, I will be very surprised.

If BA look as if they are going to go to the wall because of Walsh's intransigence we may find that the BA board are not so strongly behind Walsh's dictatorial methods.

They MUST know that nobody is going to benefit from a macho clash between two people that are not willing to give ground.

Like all previous industrial conflicts this one too will finish with both sides giving ground. I do not think that either the union OR Walsh want BA to be destroyed by such stupid brinkmanship.

The days of powerful CEOs being able to bring down a union by using a heavy hammer are past and gone and now the real victims are going to be BA and the company's customers. Whatever happens to Walsh or BA, once the dust settles, this monster union will still be there.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2010, 05:18:05 PM »
As has been said, Walsh has been tasked by the board, to try to keep BA afloat durning these hard times and I'm sure the board are fully behind him and support his actions, particularly when it comes to sorting out the millitant elements they obviously have in the various areas of the company.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2010, 12:26:11 PM »
As said in the news last night - and as I predicted....The Unite union are going over Walsh's head to appeal directly to the BA board so that negotiations can continue without the messianic and uncompromising influence of Walsh causing  log-jams in the talks.

Now maybe things will get moving and the BA travelers will not be inconvenienced any more by Walsh's acerbic style as he tries to IMPOSE change on the BA cabin crews.

Maybe it is worth recalling that two years ago BA was making £1 billion profit. After Walsh embarked on what appeared to be the most spiteful vendetta against the lowest paid and hardest working staff at that time, here we see him trying this all over again.

This time he has been stopped and it is his removal that will see BA get back into profit again and new working practices getting introduced via negotiation and not be dictatorial edict.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2010, 12:27:52 PM by Papaumau »
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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2010, 03:05:12 PM »
All this industrial action will do is play into tne hands of the anti trade union movement.

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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2010, 04:29:12 PM »
anti trade union movement also known as the Labour Party...

cheddar-caveman

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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2010, 05:18:41 PM »
And the Conservatives and the Lib Dems and any other group that wants progress!