hypocritcal grabbing pensioners

[Oldtimer]

I was brought up in a Coal mining community and I think that Arthur Skargills Ineptitude is a much to Blame as Margret Thatcher.

[William Tell]

I was brought up in a Coal mining community and I think that Arthur Skargills Ineptitude is a much to Blame as Margret Thatcher.

I was'nt born in a mining community, but I have in the past talked with x miners who did not like being refered to as the enemy within, by Thatcher.

Personally I admired Scargill, because he knew what the right wing Tory's were all about, ie destroying communities and communities spirit, and this they continbue to do under Cameron.

But sadly and unfortunately the British working classes are not politically motivated, or educated, hence both the politicians and the media run the shoe like a bloody circus, to suit their on ends.

[Oldtimer]

But he did not Know how to respond to Thatcher he was like a bull at a gate.

[William Tell]

But he did not Know how to respond to Thatcher he was like a bull at a gate.

Frankly, I dont think Thatcher was any different, he simply fought fire with fire, and I can understand that, he was trying to save miners jobs, and their communities.

[Oldtimer]

His motives where fine but his actions caused more problems than they cured.He gave Thatcher every oppertunity to counter act what he did.
Thatcher was not clever she had the police on her side and lots of overtime.

[William Tell]

His motives where fine but his actions caused more problems than they cured.He gave Thatcher every oppertunity to counter act what he did.
Thatcher was not clever she had the police on her side and lots of overtime.

Just out of curiosity, can you imagine how you would handled things differently ?

Because in my opinion, Scargill never stood a chance.

[Oldtimer]

Out of curiosity I am not in his position and never will be.
Thatcher and her government Broke the union and split it.
He played into their hands and with the help of the police Well you know the rest of the story.
All Unions suffered afterwards.

[Oldtimer]

I wtnessed how the communities where ground down afterwards.
Pit villages did not stand achance then she started on the Steel works
Sheffield did not stand a chance.
you cannot discount cheap imports of Coal & Steel.

[xetog]

Yes, Arthur Scargill never stood a chance.  His weakness was that he couldn't recognise it, because under Labour he had been used to politicians cowering beneath the threat of union muscle.  Had he recognised that the game had changed, we probably would still have some sort of national coal industry. The majority of miners backed Scargill, the majority of the rest of us, Maggie.  It was clear from the start that this was a struggle to the death, not for the coal industry, but for the nation and who was to run the it, the people or the union barons.  Thankfully we won, but only because of a strong and determined woman.  Unfortunately, even she began to believe in her invincibility in time (they all do) and had to go.
M.

[avalonmpk2]

Just over the county boundary from here in north Somerset their used to be a mining community when I was youngster and may of the people were in the mining industry, many having moved there from other mining areas and to a man everyone of them said : No! under no circumstances did they want there sons going down the mines! Perhaps that is why down here in the west we have as many labour MPs as the Scots have pandas! What causes the decline of communities is lack of diversity in industry and enterprize. . .