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Raven

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #345 on: Mar 14, 2019, 06:16:48 PM »
I agree with 41.
 
My ethnicity is mostly Scottish, although DNA has shown its not as much as I thought! I consider my background to be Scottish because of where I grew up, my accent etc. 

However, my nationality is British.  I hold a British passport,  not a Scottish or English one, British.  My husbands siblings have Scottish accents, two were born there,  but they all have the same parents. Their parents were English.  His nieces and nephews think of themselves as Scottish yet there are no Scots in their ancestry.

I'd love nationalists from wherever to have a DNA test. They might be surprised.


I can trace my dad's side to the Hebridian Isles back 500 years and my mother's side also back 500 years in Perthshire. All Scots, if there is anything else in my blood it's way back. Actually I'd quite like to know the answer, but 500 years of Scots blood makes me Scottish in my mind.  :)

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #346 on: Mar 14, 2019, 06:19:15 PM »
You can all argue the rights and wrongs of my post all you want, but it still does not, nor will it ever, change the way I think. As far the law may be concerned they will say british, but I will argue with any official who challanges me. I am Scottish like it or not.


Flounce.... Slam.

After all that you are still British.

Raven

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #347 on: Mar 14, 2019, 06:21:09 PM »
I support Raven in her post. If I am ever asked which country I come from it is England. Not "the UK" - I can't abide that nomenclature. Worse than "British".


Both sides of the border has a lot of people who feel this way. It's a personal thing, stronger in some than others.  ;)

Raven

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #348 on: Mar 14, 2019, 06:23:01 PM »
After all that you are still British.


You have your view and I have mine. You are just looking for an argument and you are not getting one. End Of.  :-* 

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #349 on: Mar 14, 2019, 06:27:08 PM »
If I'm asked where I'm from I always say England.  If I'm filling in forms I put British because England is part of Great Britain, as is Scotland. 

mick607

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #350 on: Mar 14, 2019, 07:42:30 PM »
If I'm asked where I'm from I always say England.  If I'm filling in forms I put British because England is part of Great Britain, as is Scotland.
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Michael Rolls

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #351 on: Mar 14, 2019, 10:19:17 PM »
Actually, what really irritates me - especially on American sites - is the use of 'English' when they mean 'British'  >:(
Oh, and I am English - born in Plymouth, English father, Irish mother, one Irish grandparent, three English grandparents, and one Maltese great-great-grandparent.
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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #352 on: Mar 14, 2019, 11:02:45 PM »
Strange..I have to say that, in my experience, the Americans are quick to claim their Irish/Welsh/Scots/ ancestry without the slightest questioning so perhaps the Americans you speak of are descendants of none of the above. There're plenty of 'em. ;D
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Michael Rolls

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #353 on: Mar 15, 2019, 05:22:57 AM »
The particular site that brought this to mind is Historum where American poster after American poster, despite my attempts at educating them, will refer to things like the 'English' army in WW1 and WW2, the English rule of India, England's defeat of the Luftwaffe in 1940, etc..
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crabbyob

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #354 on: Mar 15, 2019, 11:56:43 AM »
when i get introduced in India they usually slip in that i am english at which point i correct them... if they then say "its just the same"
i will 'much to their horror' ask about their Pakistani heritage then when they correct me  point out...Its just the same....
no its not the same...i am Scots...i am also British ... and if you wanna push it  am also European....
we have traced my mothers side back to Kings Barns in the 1400 ds...but my fathers side is blanc but he was born in Hamilton as was my mother and as was I... So Scots...Brit...European
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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #355 on: Mar 15, 2019, 02:38:53 PM »
I identify currently as English. 
It wasn't always the case.  In the RAF in '64 mixing with young men whose fathers were forestrymen in North Scotland, young men whose fathers were stevedores in Holyhead, or young men whose fathers worked in the Royal Ulster Constabulary, I was always British.  I saw very little difference in their outlook on life and mine.
But in the intervening years I've moved to become English, simply because the Union is no long intact.
Donald Dewer I blame for my journey.



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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #356 on: Mar 15, 2019, 04:31:50 PM »
Just been watching the exodus from ISIS last stronghold. Quite rightly focus is on the children, in some cases alone & shell shocked.
Uncomfortable viewing TBH. 

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #357 on: Mar 15, 2019, 05:33:56 PM »
Just been watching the exodus from ISIS last stronghold. Quite rightly focus is on the children, in some cases alone & shell shocked.
Uncomfortable viewing TBH.

100% the fault of the ISIS fighters who rejected earlier chances of surrender & deliberately kept their children in a war zone.

Collateral damage.
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crabbyob

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #358 on: Mar 15, 2019, 07:39:06 PM »
thanx Akbuk but the big problem is our wannabe ex-pat who lost her son...now imagine how that child might be brought up..
you are isis... you were born isis and will die isis... all non muslms should die because there can only be one people... we dont need them... how did Dr Who phrase it... Exteminate... Exteminate
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Akbuk

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Re: British ISIS fighter soon to return to GB
« Reply #359 on: Mar 15, 2019, 10:25:05 PM »
I have no sympathy for those who voluntarily went out there. For children who were dragged out there or born there, I do feel for them.
If & I do say IF we are led to believe that countries can de- radicalise adults, how hard must it be to de-radicalise 4/5/6 year olds? Start with a bag of sweets & a cartoon on TV, something that the poor sods probably haven't experienced.