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GrannyMac

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The cost of personal care for over 65s
« on: May 25, 2019, 07:29:33 AM »
A think tank has proposed that personal care for over 65s should be funded by taxes rather than the individual.  It would reduce the cost to the NHS for obvious reasons.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/23/personal-care-should-be-free-for-over-65s-says-thinktank
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2019, 08:09:57 AM »
I just hope that it comes about - the present situation is very iniquitous.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2019, 11:04:48 AM »
A think tank has proposed that personal care for over 65s should be funded by taxes rather than the individual.  It would reduce the cost to the NHS for obvious reasons.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/23/personal-care-should-be-free-for-over-65s-says-thinktank

It is a no-brainer, which is why it's unlikely to happen.

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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2019, 11:08:28 AM »
It is a no-brainer, which is why it's unlikely to happen.

The scheme should be further enhanced by scrapping foreign aid & by pulling out of the USA's  'Boys Own' military adventures.


Age UK campaigned recently about TV licences for the over 75s.  I think this is another issue they should lobby on, especially with the evidence about savings to the NHS.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2019, 12:09:31 PM »



The scheme should be further enhanced by scrapping foreign aid & by pulling out of the USA's  'Boys Own' military adventures.


Yeah and that's just for starters,

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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2019, 12:55:13 PM »


And to add, not only should charity begin at home, our country should expend more effort in creating wealth.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2019, 01:10:14 PM »


,our country should expend more effort in creating wealth


It already does, for politicians, heads of quangos, various other pointless study groups, etc,  and all their other parasitic cronies.

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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2019, 04:59:45 PM »
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And to add, not only should charity begin at home

A good point, but "home" is with their families. My wife's mother, my mother, my wife's grandmother all came to live with us when their husbands died, and they all died with us. Why do we farm our old relatives out to care homes ??

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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2019, 05:59:14 PM »
My mum was hundreds of miles away in Scotland.  She didn't want to move to England, and we had jobs and teenage children at school, so couldn't just up sticks.  Mum's rented flat was fine, her brother and sister in law and friends were nearby, and she had a reasonable social life. Several strokes and the outcome was care. My uncle and aunt eventually had the same situation, their children were in NZ and Canada. 


My inlaws both died before they needed care, younger than we are now.  I felt very guilty about my mother's situation, even though I knew she was being looked after.  It doesn't really help to read comments suggesting everyone has the same solution.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2019, 06:37:58 PM »
I am 71 and do not have any personal care. A cleaner comes every 2 weeks and I have a gardener who I fund myself.
I wash my own car on average every 2 weeks.
I prepare most of my meals myself but I do go out for some.
I don't see why I should pay tax for this.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2019, 08:57:09 PM »
My mum was hundreds of miles away in Scotland.  She didn't want to move to England, and we had jobs and teenage children at school, so couldn't just up sticks.  Mum's rented flat was fine, her brother and sister in law and friends were nearby, and she had a reasonable social life. Several strokes and the outcome was care. My uncle and aunt eventually had the same situation, their children were in NZ and Canada. 

My inlaws both died before they needed care, younger than we are now.  I felt very guilty about my mother's situation, even though I knew she was being looked after.  It doesn't really help to read comments suggesting everyone has the same solution.

GrannyMac don't let it upset you or feel guilty, it's easy to come up with a smug solution when you know Jack about other people's circumstances.

My Dad was the same, we wanted to buy a big house with an annexe for him but he wouldn't leave his home village so when he had a fall & died we got the "that's his son who didn't care" routine.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2019, 10:03:46 PM »

,our country should expend more effort in creating wealth


It already does, for politicians, heads of quangos, various other pointless study groups, etc,  and all their other parasitic cronies.
Not disagreeing in principle but these useless lazy parasites are busy acquiring wealth created by others. Wealth is created by mining/quarrying, agriculture, fishing and of course manufacturing useful things.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2019, 10:07:31 PM »
I am 71 and do not have any personal care. A cleaner comes every 2 weeks and I have a gardener who I fund myself.
I wash my own car on average every 2 weeks.
I prepare most of my meals myself but I do go out for some.
I don't see why I should pay tax for this.
I go to the leisure centre to do aerofit and Zumbab and I am the president of the 4.30am running club.


If you do need care, would you rather it was free, or have to pay thousands of a month?
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2019, 10:08:05 PM »
GrannyMac don't let it upset you or feel guilty, it's easy to come up with a smug solution when you know Jack about other people's circumstances.

My Dad was the same, we wanted to buy a big house with an annexe for him but he wouldn't leave his home village so when he had a fall & died we got the "that's his son who didn't care" routine.


Thanks, that's appreciated.
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Re: The cost of personal care for over 65s
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2019, 11:18:12 AM »
GrannyMac don't let it upset you or feel guilty, it's easy to come up with a smug solution when you know Jack about other people's circumstances.

My Dad was the same, we wanted to buy a big house with an annexe for him but he wouldn't leave his home village so when he had a fall & died we got the "that's his son who didn't care" routine.


Lovely, thoughtful answer Diasi.
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