Crabbyob, As someone whose home was on a council estate with my parents till my twenties, the last thing I would do is knock council tenants, at that time 99% of the people on our estate, were great , honest, and hard working people, who would always be there for us, particularly during the war and the raids, This is about two things, the fairness of the council funding system, Which the present system is not, and how a person chooses to spend their money, if person "A" chooses to spend their money on booze, gambling, exotic holidays, or whatever, but live in a lower value house or area, good luck to them, its their money, But if person "B" prefers to spend their money living in a better home , or improving the one they have, why should they be penalised and made to pay more for identical council services than person "A".