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Re: Help In Choosing The Next Unelectable Labour Leader.
« Reply #45 on: Dec 18, 2019, 10:06:59 AM »
How did Keir Starmer acquire that knighthood?

Oh, wait a minute, they are like Bachelor's degree, cheapened to the extent that they
mean almost nothing nowadays: how remiss of me to forget.

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« Reply #46 on: Dec 18, 2019, 10:11:56 AM »
>>Appointed Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB) in the 2014 New Year Honours for "services to law and criminal justice"<<


Mike - per Wiki
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« Reply #47 on: Dec 18, 2019, 10:17:52 AM »
I am a bit intrigued by another entry re KS


>>Bar Council’s Sydney Elland Goldsmith Award for his outstanding contribution to pro bono work in challenging the death penalty in 2005<<


The death penalty in the uk was abolished in 1965 . At time Starmer was three years old - don't know how effective an advocate he must have been from his pram!
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« Reply #48 on: Dec 18, 2019, 10:30:34 AM »
Presumably that means he was doing something about the death penalty outwith Britain.

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« Reply #49 on: Dec 18, 2019, 10:37:47 AM »
Doesn't say so - although, being serious, I would imagine that to be the case
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« Reply #50 on: Dec 18, 2019, 11:13:42 AM »
Whilst I have no idea what Mr Starmer was doing in 1965, wasn't it Blair's ministry that abolished the death penalty for treason?

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« Reply #51 on: Dec 18, 2019, 11:19:25 AM »
Yes 29th May 1998. HoC ratified the 6th Protocol of the EU Convention on Human Rights until than, as far as I am aware, capital punishment remained on the books for treason
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« Reply #52 on: Dec 18, 2019, 12:09:46 PM »
Excellent new, Thornberry / Nugee's standing as Labour leader.
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« Reply #53 on: Dec 18, 2019, 04:09:07 PM »
"Blair's ministry that abolished the death penalty for treason?"

I sometimes wonder whether that was wise as I can see quite a few politicians whose actions and words
might be described as treasonous.

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« Reply #54 on: Dec 18, 2019, 04:32:51 PM »
I am a bit intrigued by another entry re KS


>>Bar Council’s Sydney Elland Goldsmith Award for his outstanding contribution to pro bono work in challenging the death penalty in 2005<<


The death penalty in the uk was abolished in 1965 . At time Starmer was three years old - don't know how effective an advocate he must have been from his pram!
Mike

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The noble Starmer was actually given his gong for work appertaining to his contribution to generic human rights and international endeavours for work to abolish the Death Penalty in Uganda. A Blair goodbye present!

He's actually a very decent man, unfortunately blindly committed to the EU. He became closely associated with Gina Miller and other co-conspirators to set aside the referendum result. The Northern Labour constituencies consequently sought revenge and boy did they get it!
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Re: Help In Choosing The Next Unelectable Labour Leader.
« Reply #55 on: Dec 18, 2019, 04:51:31 PM »
"He's actually a very decent man"

Quite possibly; I suspect that quite a few members of the Labour party are decent people; I just feel that they are going about things
in the wrong way: socialism has had its day, if it ever had one at all.

"unfortunately blindly committed to the EU"

Well, I am anti-Brexit, but certainly not blindly, and feel that Britain would have been better to work from within to
effect a radical transformation.

I also suffer from a condition where I can understand both points of view.

Any sort of blind commitment, which ever way it goes, is potentially extremely dangerous.

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« Reply #56 on: Dec 18, 2019, 05:06:57 PM »
This is the sort of Labour activist / commentator, who can't & won't accept the result of a democratic election & who still openly calls Brexit voters xenophobes, who will help to keep Labour unelectable.

https://bit.ly/2M9aR9N
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« Reply #57 on: Dec 18, 2019, 06:30:23 PM »
"Blair's ministry that abolished the death penalty for treason?"

I sometimes wonder whether that was wise as I can see quite a few politicians whose actions and words
might be described as treasonous.
I have a feeling it might have been a case of self-interest!
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« Reply #58 on: Dec 18, 2019, 06:34:59 PM »
Cassandra
Thanks for the gen on Starmer's gong. Whenever anyone mentions Uganda, my mind immediately switched ot Idi Amin and the plight of many Ugandan Asians
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« Reply #59 on: Dec 18, 2019, 07:03:44 PM »
I gather the legacy media has already decided it's Eduard Miliband recycled.