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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #30 on: Mar 26, 2020, 08:00:46 PM »
I'm not sure why that could be a special factor given that compared to most of the UK the whole of London is. I just checked Google and got...

At the 2011 census, London had a population of 8,173,941. Of this number 44.9% were White British. 37% of the population were born outside the UK, including 24.5% born outside of Europe.

I doubt the 9 years since has tilted that balance towards British


The proximatey to Heathrow could be a factor though, lots of people who work there in that area.  Travellers,  baggage handlers, security etc.  Just an idea.

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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #31 on: Mar 26, 2020, 09:16:54 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #32 on: Mar 27, 2020, 08:57:08 AM »
Of the 80 odd deaths yesterday a quarter came from a single London hospital. The same one that ran out of intensive care beds a few days back. There is always going to be somewhere with most deaths but that seems extraordinary to me and there must be some underlying reason but I doubt it will ever come to light.
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #33 on: Mar 27, 2020, 09:25:33 AM »
There's a lot of money just in legitimate HIMOs. There isn't a week goes by but we get a card through the letterbox from estate agents wanting us to sell. A lot of houses in the area have been converted to flatlets or student rooms with shared kitchen bath and toilet. You could easily convert my house to 4 or even 6 at a pinch at £100+ a week or a minimum of £1600 a month. The rent for a family house would be a lot less around here.

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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #34 on: Mar 27, 2020, 07:48:25 PM »

Italy Daily Death Numbers post Italy Lockdown

Friday 627
Saturday 793
Sunday 651
Monday 602
Tuesday 743
Wednesday 683
Thursday 662
Friday 969


A thoroughly awful day from Italy, just when I was thinking the Italian rates were plateauing.
However we have had 3 days of stark warnings about an expected explosion of cases from Southern Italy
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #35 on: Mar 27, 2020, 08:44:34 PM »
are they definitely corona related deaths ?
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #36 on: Mar 27, 2020, 09:04:21 PM »
are they definitely corona related deaths ?

I would imagine that this is the big unknown.

At best, many deaths will be cases where the Corona virus was present but wasn't the main underlying cause.
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #37 on: Mar 27, 2020, 09:50:02 PM »
are they definitely corona related deaths ?
CrabbyOB,
I would expect so - they are the daily output from the Italian Public Health system, and are the same set of stats as released by the UK PH system, and every other country, for their own management of their own outbreak of the virus.


My interest in the Italian figures is that Italy is coming out of its first period of Lockdown.  One indication that Lockdown works should be a plateauing of Viral Death numbers.
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #38 on: Mar 28, 2020, 09:20:17 PM »
Italy Daily Death Numbers post Italy Lockdown
Friday 627
Saturday 793
Sunday 651
Monday 602
Tuesday 743
Eednesday 683
Thursday 662
Friday 963
Saturday 889.
« Last Edit: Mar 28, 2020, 09:59:01 PM by BazzerPontefract »

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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #39 on: Mar 28, 2020, 10:21:54 PM »
At least the doubling every three days has been halted. The logarithmic plots of cases and deaths are now showing this quite clearly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Not out of the woods by a long way yet though. Maybe in another week or so the decline will start. I've seen talk of trouble in the South which I expect is the result of the movement home of students as reported on Breitbart a while back but which I haven't seen getting much of a mention elsewhere.

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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #40 on: Mar 29, 2020, 10:43:48 AM »
Spiked are suggesting that the Italy lockdown has been badly botched. That suggests to me that following their progress through this may not be as useful a prediction of what we face as I once thought. Ours may have been a bit late but seems to me to have been more thorough.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/03/27/italys-lockdown-has-been-a-recipe-for-disaster/

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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #41 on: Mar 29, 2020, 08:10:44 PM »

Italy Daily Death Numbers post Italy Lockdown
Friday 627
Saturday 793
Sunday 651
Monday 602
Tuesday 743
Wednesday 683
Thursday 662
Friday 963
Saturday 889.
Sunday 756
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #42 on: Mar 29, 2020, 08:33:38 PM »
No pattern
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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #43 on: Mar 29, 2020, 08:50:46 PM »
No pattern
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But there is a pattern.
Viral Death Rates are plateauing.
On a graph you'd see a flattening of that curve we are all familiar with.

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Re: Coronavirus live updates: 627 die in a single day in Italy
« Reply #44 on: Mar 29, 2020, 09:44:27 PM »
Unless you see Friday and Saturday as the plateau - and I hope that is the case - but the scatter amongst the earlier days doesn’t give much confidence in such an assumption
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