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Re: Thousands more ventiators could be on the way...
« Reply #1 on: Mar 25, 2020, 05:25:52 PM »
Manufacturers are jumping on that particular bandwagon like it's the last bandwagon of the year..A good thing though..
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Re: Thousands more ventiators could be on the way...
« Reply #2 on: Mar 25, 2020, 06:01:04 PM »
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Re: Thousands more ventiators could be on the way...
« Reply #3 on: Mar 25, 2020, 08:09:26 PM »
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Re: Thousands More Ventilators Could Be On The Way.
« Reply #4 on: Mar 25, 2020, 09:32:29 PM »
Gtech have developed one as well.

Apparently when it's not being used as a ventilator it can be switched into reverse & used to vacuum the ward floor.

https://bbc.in/3anb7fA

Dyson are developing one, it'll look futuristic, cost 10 times more than anyone else's & will still only do the same job.
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Re: Thousands More Ventilators Could Be On The Way.
« Reply #5 on: Mar 25, 2020, 09:51:27 PM »
Gtech have developed one as well.

Apparently when it's not being used as a ventilator it can be switched into reverse & used to vacuum the ward floor.

https://bbc.in/3anb7fA

Dyson are developing one, it'll look futuristic, cost 10 times more than anyone else's & will still only do the same job.


And they are made in China!

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Re: Thousands More Ventilators Could Be On The Way.
« Reply #6 on: Mar 25, 2020, 10:03:16 PM »

And they are made in China!

And the winner is the one made by Oxford university which can be built in the UK & be cheap as chips.
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Re: Thousands More Ventilators Could Be On The Way.
« Reply #7 on: Mar 25, 2020, 10:06:32 PM »
And the winner is the one made by Oxford university which can be built in the UK & be cheap as chips.


I doubt it's at a mass production level yet but there's plenty of time..
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Re: Thousands More Ventilators Could Be On The Way.
« Reply #8 on: Mar 26, 2020, 07:03:18 AM »

I doubt it's at a mass production level yet but there's plenty of time..

The youngish wizz-kid who demonstrated it said it could be in mass production within a few days & that Sony had agreed to produce the circuit boards which are very simple to make.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 26, 2020, 10:39:21 AM »
The youngish wizz-kid who demonstrated it said it could be in mass production within a few days & that Sony had agreed to produce the circuit boards which are very simple to make.

Dyson have already been given the contract for 10,000 ventilators so I reckon the others were asked to produce prototypes just to make it look fair & above board.

The Oxford University whizz-kid's ventilator could have been made for a couple of hundred quid.
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Re: Thousands more ventiators could be on the way...
« Reply #10 on: Mar 26, 2020, 10:16:19 PM »
Just read a piece in the Spectator by a Canadian medical specialist.
He claims 80% of those virus patients who are put on Ventilators die.
He therefore poses the question: why waste resources chasing Ventilators and why waste medical resources running Ventilarors for patients that 8 in 10 of which will die.

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« Reply #11 on: Mar 26, 2020, 10:49:57 PM »
Itís the sort of statistic that needs examining. Is he talking about the current situaton or generally? If so, we know there is a shortage of ventilators; if more were available, would his 80% mortality rate still be the case? In any case, is he advocationg increasing the 80% to 100%?
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Re: Thousands more ventiators could be on the way...
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 06:09:27 AM »
I wouldn't want him as my medical specialist.

Does the dimwit not realise that by the very nature of needing to be put on a ventilator, death is a high possible outcome.
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Re: Thousands More Ventilators Could Be On The Way.
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 06:13:49 AM »
Dyson have already been given the contract for 10,000 ventilators so I reckon the others were asked to produce prototypes just to make it look fair & above board.

The Oxford University whizz-kid's ventilator could have been made for a couple of hundred quid.

Seems Sir James has been a naughty boy as Dyson haven't yet been given a contract.

https://bit.ly/2Jvbedf
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Re: Thousands more ventiators could be on the way...
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 06:52:08 AM »
Itís the sort of statistic that needs examining. Is he talking about the current situaton or generally? If so, we know there is a shortage of ventilators; if more were available, would his 80% mortality rate still be the case? In any case, is he advocationg increasing the 80% to 100%?
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There is no shortage   of ventilators now - it is only when the surge comes will there be more patients struggling to stay alive for a few days will there be a shortage.
The 80% mortality rate applies to ITU that have sufficient ventilators currently. - that is for virus patients.
I believe yes - he is suggesting don't buy ventilators and don't apply clinical resources to a situation where only 2 in 10 will survive.
I think he has a point - the money spent on ventilators and the clinical resource would be better applied elsewhere.