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mick607

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« Reply #1725 on: Jul 19, 2024, 07:26:56 PM »
Our border force has actually taken back 13 boat refugees to France, seems like they got away with it, as they have to take them to the nearest port, which was said to be Calais
But why were Border Force in French waters ?

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« Reply #1726 on: Jul 19, 2024, 07:28:43 PM »
Presumably it was an emergency situation?
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« Reply #1727 on: Jul 21, 2024, 03:12:33 PM »
The cost of Housing, maintaining Migrants seems to be running out of hand, in this side of the World.

Perhaps it's time to act quickly and get an International Migrants Charity set up.

i.e. Multiple Countries, already taking the financial hit, fund a charity which sets up Charity funded Migrant "Hotels", Training Centres, etc.in each of the "funding" countries.

That way could lead to two fixes:-

1) The Public could pay in whatever they chose, as it's a Charity, thus, partially, fixing the public feeling resulting from bearing the cost.

2) The Migrants would be looked after, Medically, and retrained to fit vacancies wherever.


A, say, 50 million quid donation, by each Country, would start the right ball rolling - in the right direction? (and might end up being a cheap solution?)

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« Reply #1728 on: Jul 21, 2024, 03:40:13 PM »
The cost of Housing, maintaining Migrants seems to be running out of hand, in this side of the World.

Perhaps it's time to act quickly and get an International Migrants Charity set up.

i.e. Multiple Countries, already taking the financial hit, fund a charity which sets up Charity funded Migrant "Hotels", Training Centres, etc.in each of the "funding" countries.

That way could lead to two fixes:-

1) The Public could pay in whatever they chose, as it's a Charity, thus, partially, fixing the public feeling resulting from bearing the cost.

2) The Migrants would be looked after, Medically, and retrained to fit vacancies wherever.


A, say, 50 million quid donation, by each Country, would start the right ball rolling - in the right direction? (and might end up being a cheap solution?)


I think Teddy they’ve (Europe) has already thrown billions at this problem, both home & away.
I’m just wondering where throwing money at it has actually worked?


Anyway, Yvette Cooper is on it now, how long will she or the Labour Party be given to show some results?
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« Reply #1729 on: Jul 21, 2024, 04:27:54 PM »
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« Reply #1730 on: Jul 21, 2024, 07:19:12 PM »
so they these people land in France from around the World so it becomes there responsibilities does it>?


Italy is overrun with illegal immigrants...the face of Italy is changing...whose is next on the hit list then?
.....France is seems to many

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« Reply #1731 on: Jul 22, 2024, 03:02:52 PM »
I listened to a comment from a peaceful protester in Eire, where all Hell is letting loose.
His major concern was (just like the rest of us), undocumented illegals.
What stood out was, “there was no protests here when Ukrainians were coming in, why? Because we all knew they were genuine & needed our help”.
Fair comment methinks.
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« Reply #1732 on: Jul 22, 2024, 05:39:03 PM »
IMHO, one of the problems of saying that the UK is a multicultural country (or countries if you prefer) is that it is permitting other cultures to do and say what they want despite the fact that it is contrary to the wishes of the host population’s own culture.

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« Reply #1733 on: Jul 22, 2024, 09:21:01 PM »
I listened to a comment from a peaceful protester in Eire, where all Hell is letting loose.
His major concern was (just like the rest of us), undocumented illegals.
What stood out was, “there was no protests here when Ukrainians were coming in, why? Because we all knew they were genuine & needed our help”.
Fair comment methinks.
Because they were genuine refugees fleeing war. Not the same as the Muslim idle free loaders entering this country illegally.

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« Reply #1734 on: Jul 22, 2024, 09:49:47 PM »
There’s a list of countries where these people can’t be sent back to. Then there’s another list where countries won’t accept them back.
If I wanted to know the lists, I’d need to ask an illegal, they’ve probably got those lists on their phones.

I watched a black fella in Dublin say, “I’m gay & they kill gays in my country”. That’s how easy it is not to be sent back!!
I listened to an immigration lawyer list out the reasons why folks can’t get deported. One reason that caught my ear was “global warning”, I’m mean FFS we can all use that one. Does that mean I can just crash into any country & use that excuse 😂 
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« Reply #1735 on: Jul 22, 2024, 09:52:42 PM »
Because they were genuine refugees fleeing war. Not the same as the Muslim idle free loaders entering this country illegally.
That's what is so annoying - Ukrainian refugees were the young, the old and the vulnerable - while fit young Ukrainian men (and women) stayed to fight and defend their Country.  In the case of the boat boys, many are fit young men who think their own Countries aren't safe places - yet they are obviously safe enough for the mothers and sisters they happily leave behind. 

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« Reply #1736 on: Jul 22, 2024, 10:04:14 PM »
That's what is so annoying - Ukrainian refugees were the young, the old and the vulnerable - while fit young Ukrainian men (and women) stayed to fight and defend their Country.  In the case of the boat boys, many are fit young men who think their own Countries aren't safe places - yet they are obviously safe enough for the mothers and sisters they happily leave behind.


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« Reply #1737 on: Jul 22, 2024, 10:52:51 PM »
When it comes to the boat crossings, we’re already witnessing exactly the same what was happening before Labour came to power.
How very dare Starmer shake Macrons hand, a flying head butt would’ve  been more apt.

Where’s the first tent city going to be in the UK?

Some cruise ships can take 8,000 passengers plus 3,000 crew. What about sticking a few of them out at sea, process all migrants onboard before they make land here?

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« Reply #1738 on: Jul 23, 2024, 09:20:51 AM »
Can you imagine a dystopian world with tent cities out in “ the fringes “ and horrible lawless stinking hulks that were once cruise ships out in the channel in the main shipping lanes ?
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« Reply #1739 on: Jul 23, 2024, 10:49:08 AM »
When it comes to the boat crossings, we’re already witnessing exactly the same what was happening before Labour came to power.
How very dare Starmer shake Macrons hand, a flying head butt would’ve  been more apt.

Where’s the first tent city going to be in the UK?

Some cruise ships can take 8,000 passengers plus 3,000 crew. What about sticking a few of them out at sea, process all migrants onboard before they make land here?
There are several all over London and other places. This one is in Leeds 👇
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