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Muddy

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« on: Sep 09, 2023, 10:15:29 PM »
Just watched the England v Argentina game
Despite one man being given a red card 2 minutes into the game England beat Argentina 27 -10 .
Amazing game
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 09, 2023, 10:17:43 PM »
When Curry was given the red card I 'Oh, no  - that's it!' Couldn't believe how much they were than the pitiful performances they gave in the warm up games.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 10, 2023, 05:43:51 AM »
the more I review the two incidents, the more irritated I get. By the standards of today, Curry' red card was totally justified, but how on earth the way Carrares jumped into Ford, no attempt at a tackle, he just hurled himself at Ford, sending him flying, late, making contact with the head , totally reckless - and yet only yellow. In the event, it didn't matter - England won, but had they lost there would have been a lot of justifiable ill-feeling in the England camp
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 10, 2023, 06:24:24 AM »
So in the warm up games England have had two sent off for high tackles with head contact to an opposition player, subsequent bans, so what happens, the real deal in that it's a world cup match an  English guy tackles high again, do they not understand the consequences of their actions.
Side note what a great pundit Wilkinson is  ,not.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 10, 2023, 09:08:10 AM »
Who care hes  cute 😀
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 10, 2023, 09:46:14 AM »
It's not a case of not understanding - it's a case of getting a split second decision horribly wrong. Players must be more cautious with such tackles. World Rugby's stance, given the worry about the long term effects of repeated concussions, is simple and understandable. It is the tackler who makes the decision to tackle, therefore it is his fault if a clash of heads ensues. I think Curry's situation - whilst clearly a red card, was a bit less culpable, seeing that he was coming in mainly from the side, than Farrell and Vunipola, both of whom tackled full face on.
I am still put out at the leniency shown to Carreras - his attack - I can think of no kinder description - was totally reckless.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 10, 2023, 02:25:54 PM »
It's not a case of not understanding - it's a case of getting a split second decision horribly wrong. Players must be more cautious with such tackles. World Rugby's stance, given the worry about the long term effects of repeated concussions, is simple and understandable. It is the tackler who makes the decision to tackle, therefore it is his fault if a clash of heads ensues. I think Curry's situation - whilst clearly a red card, was a bit less culpable, seeing that he was coming in mainly from the side, than Farrell and Vunipola, both of whom tackled full face on.
I am still put out at the leniency shown to Carreras - his attack - I can think of no kinder description - was totally reckless.
Of course it's the consequences, luckily for the Argentinean  he was able to carry on after the hia, if you want to tackle, bend your back, it's not rocket science, Ford in his man of the match interview talked of practicing for scenarios like being down to 14, meaning they aren't prepared to learn, 2 sending s off in warm up games one in the opening game, no other team is doing it.


Dallagio in the post match talk, talked of seeing tackles like Currys in the Premiership and no cards, obviously player safety is not paramount for the coaches.


Having said that cracking win, they now need to decide which  one the 15 they need to sacrifice.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 10, 2023, 04:01:53 PM »
at a guess Vunipola will come back - his ban is over, whereas Farrell still has match to go. Can't remember seeing Ford play that well for a very long time. Presumably after the Japan match, when Farrell will be available again, unless he is injured or has a shocker against Japan, would replacing him with Farrell make sense? and to my mind Farrell isn't our best 12 - on last night's showing Tuilagi is better. 
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 10, 2023, 08:21:29 PM »
Fiji V Wales, how it should be played.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 10, 2023, 09:19:04 PM »
not seen it yet - got it recording.
Head contact - anther example - RSA Kriel on Scotland's No. 8. If Curry was a red card so was this - totally ignored by the officials. We hope for consistency from the officials; already it clearly isn't happening
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 11, 2023, 07:24:30 PM »
not seen it yet - got it recording.
Head contact - anther example - RSA Kriel on Scotland's No. 8. If Curry was a red card so was this - totally ignored by the officials. We hope for consistency from the officials; already it clearly isn't happening
Yeah saw it on u tube.


Just been watching the old classics from previous world cups, what is noticeable was the speed of scrum formations, no mucking around, scrum down on with it.
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 12, 2023, 07:39:29 AM »
scrums being reset time and again are really frustrating
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 12, 2023, 09:33:56 AM »
scrums being reset time and again are really frustrating
Then the ball is not put in the tunnel for the hookers to contest, when was the last time a srum half was pulled up for feeding.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 12, 2023, 11:37:57 AM »
Then the ball is not put in the tunnel for the hookers to contest, when was the last time a srum half was pulled up for feeding.

The laws changed 6 years ago, and the No.9 is now able to stand with his outside shoulder in line with the middle of the scrum, meaning the ball is fed in closer to his own team. Though the ball must still be fed in straight.

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« Reply #14 on: Sep 12, 2023, 03:10:13 PM »
The laws changed 6 years ago, and the No.9 is now able to stand with his outside shoulder in line with the middle of the scrum, meaning the ball is fed in closer to his own team. Though the ball must still be fed in straight.
Straight to his own hooker.
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